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County Council - Wednesday, 11th September, 2024 10.00 am

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The County Council of Carmarthenshire met on Wednesday 11 September 2024, approving a restructured loan agreement for Parc y Scarlets and adopting draft supplementary planning guidance for public consultation. The meeting also saw the approval of a polling district and polling place review, and a community review under the Local Government (Democracy) (Wales) Act 2013.

Polling District and Polling Place Review 2023/2024

The Council unanimously approved the scheme of polling districts and polling places as set out in Appendix A of the report. Power to designate polling places was delegated to the Electoral Services Manager for situations requiring short notice decisions. This review was conducted in accordance with the Representation of the People Act 1983, with references made to the need for a polling station in Cilycwm, access issues at the Pwll Bowls Pavilion, and the placement of CCTV cameras at Llannon Polling Station, all of which were assured to be taken under review.

The Local Government (Democracy) (Wales) Act 2013 - Community Review

The Council unanimously adopted the proposals detailed in Appendix C of the report as final recommendations for the community review. This review, undertaken under Section 25 of the Local Government (Democracy) (Wales) Act 2013, examined existing Town and Community Governance arrangements. The adopted proposals relate to the community arrangements for Llangyndeyrn Community Council in relation to Llanelli Rural Council, Trimsaran Community Council, and Pontyberem Community Council.

Appointment of a New Co-opted Independent Member of the Standards Committee

Mr David Morgan was unanimously appointed as a co-opted member of the Standards Committee for a full initial term of office. This appointment followed a formal recruitment process to fill a vacancy that arose earlier in 2024. Mr Morgan is a former police officer recommended by a recruitment panel comprising councillors and a lay member.

Composition of the Council's Scrutiny, Regulatory and Other Committees and the Appointment of Members to Serve Upon Them

Following the notification that Councillors Rob James and Anthony Leyshon had moved from the Labour Group to sit as Independent Unaffiliated Members, the Council resolved to adopt changes to the number of seats held by the Labour and Unaffiliated Members as detailed in Tables 1, 2, and 3 of the report. Consequently, changes in Committee membership were approved in accordance with Corporate Procedure Rule CPR 2 (2) (o). The existing arrangements for the allocation of the five Scrutiny Chairs were noted to remain unchanged.

Recommendations of the Cabinet

Parc y Scarlets Agreement

The Council unanimously resolved to adopt the Cabinet's recommendations to approve a restructure of the loan agreement with Scarlets Regional Ltd. The loan term will be extended for 15 years from 1 April 2023, with a three-year deferral of payments, amounting to £2.616m. Repayment of the principal will commence on 1 April 2026, with equal annual instalments of £218,000. Interest will continue to be charged at a rate of 2.2% above the bank base rate. Councillor W.E. Skinner declared an interest and left the meeting during the consideration of this item. Representatives from Scarlets Regional Ltd made a presentation to the Council.

Draft Supplementary Planning Guidance (SPG) Local Development Plan

The Council unanimously accepted the Cabinet's recommendations to approve the draft Supplementary Planning Guidance (SPG) documents for publication for formal public consultation. These SPGs relate to Plastering, Rendering and Insulating Traditional Buildings: Guidance for Sustainability; the Carmarthenshire Shopfront Design Guide 2022; and Conservation Areas: An Essential Guide to their Enhancement. Delegated authority was also granted to officers to update or amend any factual, typographical, or grammatical errors.

Notice of Motion

Notice of Motion Submitted by Councillors Kevin Madge and Tina Higgins

The Council considered a motion calling on the Cabinet to bring Garnant Workman's Hall into public ownership, demolish it, and use the land for extra care sheltered flats or housing for local people. The motion highlighted the building as an eyesore and a fire risk. Despite representations made in support, the Council resolved not to support the motion.

Notice of Motion Submitted by Councillors Aled Vaughan Owen and Meinir James

The Council unanimously resolved to support a motion reaffirming its commitment to supporting Fairtrade within Carmarthenshire. The motion also proposed recognising Fairtrade towns, supporting a Fairtrade Steering Committee, and appointing a Cabinet Member as a Champion for Fairtrade. The motion was referred to the Cabinet for further action.

Notice of Motion Submitted by Councillors Hefin Jones and Linda Davies Evans

This motion expressed regret and opposition to the UK Government's decision to scrap the winter fuel allowance for pensioners. It called on the UK Government to rethink its strategy and pause the removal of support for winter 2024-2025. Due to earlier declarations of interest rendering the Council inquorate for this item, the proposer withdrew the motion.

Public Questions

Ms Tara-Jane Sutcliffe to Councillor Edward Thomas – Cabinet Member for Transport, Waste and Infrastructure

Ms Sutcliffe enquired about the progress of the Towy Valley Cycle Path construction, specifically regarding compulsory purchases and the estimated outstanding local cost beyond the March 2025 deadline. Councillor Edward Thomas confirmed that compulsory purchase processes had concluded and that works were progressing across various sections. He expressed confidence that the project would be substantially complete by the deadline, with any residual spend remaining within the £1.8m capital allocation. In response to a supplementary question, Councillor Thomas reiterated confidence in completing the project on time and within budget.

Petition

The Council considered a petition requesting the scrapping of plans to charge for parking at Llansteffan beach front. The petition argued that introducing parking charges would lead to widespread illegal parking, negatively impacting local businesses, roads, and emergency vehicle access. The Council resolved to refer the petition to the Cabinet for consideration, as the petitioner was not in attendance.

Questions by Members

Councillor Kevin Madge to Councillor Alun Lenny – Cabinet Member for Resources

Councillor Madge questioned the purchase of the former Wilko store in Carmarthen, contrasting it with a lack of investment in schools and the Miner's Theatre in Ammanford. Councillor Alun Lenny stated that the purchase was an Invest to Save venture, with the council already owning the adjacent car park and aiming to prevent the prime site from remaining empty. He explained that the council would let the property out to tenants, generating income, and that discussions were underway with interested retail parties. He declined to reveal the purchase price for commercial reasons. In a supplementary question, Councillor Madge asked why the council would purchase the Wilko store but not the Poundstretcher store in Ammanford. Councillor Lenny responded that there was a masterplan for Ammanford with ongoing discussions and feasibility studies, and that levelling-up money had been used for street scene improvements.

Councillor Kevin Madge to Councillor Edward Thomas – Cabinet Member for Transport, Waste and Infrastructure Services

Councillor Madge asked about the approach to grass verge cutting and weed killer spraying in the Amman Valley. Councillor Edward Thomas outlined the annual programme for verge mowing and weed spraying, noting that a resource issue with a contractor had affected the schedule in the Amman Valley and Llanelli areas, but additional resources were brought in. In a supplementary question, Councillor Madge suggested earlier cutting and spraying due to global warming and tourism considerations. Councillor Thomas agreed to look into the matter and suggested it could be discussed at a scrutiny committee.

Changes to Membership of Committees

The Council unanimously approved several changes to committee memberships:

  • Councillor Emlyn Schiavone replaced Councillor Carys Jones on the Education, Young People and Welsh Language Scrutiny Committee.
  • Councillor Denise Owen replaced Councillor Carys Jones on the Planning Committee.
  • Councillor Steve Williams replaced Councillor Sean Rees on the Education, Young People and the Welsh Language Scrutiny Committee.
  • Councillor Philip Warlow replaced Councillor Peter Cooper on the Dyfed Pension Fund Committee.

Election of Committee Chairs

  • Councillor E. Schiavone was unanimously elected Chair of the Education, Young People and the Welsh Language Scrutiny Committee.
  • Councillor M. Charles was unanimously appointed Vice-Chair of the Planning Committee.

Minutes for Information

The minutes for various scrutiny committees and other committees were noted as available for information on the Council website.

Attendees

Steve Murphy
Profile image for Cllr. Sue Allen
Cllr. Sue Allen Independent Whitland
Profile image for Cllr. Liam Bowen
Cllr. Liam Bowen Plaid Cymru Pontyberem
Profile image for Cllr. Kim Broom
Cllr. Kim Broom Plaid Cymru Trimsaran
Profile image for Cllr. Mansel Charles
Cllr. Mansel Charles Plaid Cymru Llanegwad
Profile image for Peter Cooper
Peter Cooper Welsh Labour Saron
Profile image for Cllr. Michael Cranham
Cllr. Michael Cranham Unaffiliated - Independent Bigyn
Profile image for Cllr. Deryk Cundy
Cllr. Deryk Cundy Leader of the Opposition Group (Labour) Welsh Labour Bynea
Profile image for Cllr. Suzy Curry
Cllr. Suzy Curry Welsh Labour Tyisha
Profile image for Cllr. Andrew Davies
Cllr. Andrew Davies Plaid Cymru Llangadog
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Profile image for Cllr. Anthony Davies
Cllr. Anthony Davies Independent Llandybie
Profile image for Cllr. Arwel Davies
Cllr. Arwel Davies Plaid Cymru Cilycwm
Profile image for Cllr. Bryan Davies
Cllr. Bryan Davies Plaid Cymru Cynwyl Elfed
Profile image for Cllr. Crish Davies
Cllr. Crish Davies Unaffiliated - Independent Kidwelly and St.Ishmael
Profile image for Cllr. Glynog Davies
Cllr. Glynog Davies Cabinet Member Plaid Cymru Cwarter Bach
Profile image for Cllr. Handel Davies
Cllr. Handel Davies Plaid Cymru Llandovery
Profile image for Cllr. Karen Davies
Cllr. Karen Davies Plaid Cymru Saron
Profile image for Cllr. Lewis Davies
Cllr. Lewis Davies Welsh Labour Kidwelly and St.Ishmael
Profile image for Cllr. Llinos Mai Davies
Cllr. Llinos Mai Davies Plaid Cymru Llannon
Profile image for Cllr. Sharen Davies
Cllr. Sharen Davies Independent Llwynhendy
Profile image for Cllr. Terry Davies
Cllr. Terry Davies Plaid Cymru Tyisha
Profile image for Cllr. Michelle Donoghue
Cllr. Michelle Donoghue Welsh Labour Bynea
Profile image for Cllr. Alex Evans
Cllr. Alex Evans Plaid Cymru Glyn
Profile image for Cllr. Colin Evans
Cllr. Colin Evans Plaid Cymru Ammanford
Profile image for Cllr. Hazel Evans
Cllr. Hazel Evans Deputy Leader and Cabinet Member Plaid Cymru Cenarth and Llangeler
Profile image for Cllr. Linda Evans
Cllr. Linda Evans Leader of the Council Plaid Cymru Llanfihangel-ar-Arth
Profile image for Cllr. Nysia Evans
Cllr. Nysia Evans Welsh Labour Dafen and Felinfoel
Profile image for Cllr. Rob Evans
Cllr. Rob Evans Welsh Labour Dafen and Felinfoel
Profile image for Cllr. Tyssul Evans
Cllr. Tyssul Evans Plaid Cymru Llangyndeyrn
Profile image for Cllr. Shelly Godfrey-Coles 
Cllr. Shelly Godfrey-Coles  Unaffiliated - Independent Burry Port
Profile image for Cllr. Deian Harries
Cllr. Deian Harries Plaid Cymru Ammanford
Profile image for Cllr. Jason Hart
Cllr. Jason Hart Independent Llwynhendy
Profile image for Cllr. Tina Higgins
Cllr. Tina Higgins Deputy Leader of the Opposition Group (Labour) Welsh Labour Tycroes
Profile image for Cllr. Ken Howell
Cllr. Ken Howell Plaid Cymru Cenarth and Llangeler
Profile image for Cllr. Philip Hughes
Cllr. Philip Hughes Cabinet Member Independent St Clears with Llansteffan
Profile image for Cllr. Peter Hughes Griffiths
Cllr. Peter Hughes Griffiths Plaid Cymru Carmarthen Town North and South
Profile image for Cllr. John James
Cllr. John James Unaffiliated - Independent Burry Port
Profile image for Cllr. Meinir James
Cllr. Meinir James Plaid Cymru Llangyndeyrn
Profile image for Cllr. Rob James
Cllr. Rob James Unaffiliated - Green Party Lliedi
Profile image for Cllr. Gareth John
Cllr. Gareth John Plaid Cymru Carmarthen Town North and South
Profile image for Cllr. Betsan Jones
Cllr. Betsan Jones Vice-Chair of Council Plaid Cymru Betws
Profile image for Cllr. Carys Jones
Cllr. Carys Jones Cabinet Member Plaid Cymru St Clears with Llansteffan
Profile image for Cllr. Dot Jones
Cllr. Dot Jones Chair of Council Unaffiliated - Independent Llannon
Profile image for Gary Jones
Gary Jones
Profile image for Cllr. Hefin Jones
Cllr. Hefin Jones Plaid Cymru Llanfihangel Aberbythych
Profile image for Cllr. Alun Lenny
Cllr. Alun Lenny Cabinet Member Plaid Cymru Carmarthen Town North and South
Profile image for Cllr. Jean Lewis
Cllr. Jean Lewis Plaid Cymru Trelech
Profile image for Cllr. Neil Lewis
Cllr. Neil Lewis Plaid Cymru Abergwili
Anthony Leyshon
Profile image for Cllr. Kevin Madge
Cllr. Kevin Madge Welsh Labour Garnant
Profile image for Cllr. Giles Morgan
Cllr. Giles Morgan Chair of Council Independent Swiss Valley
Profile image for Cllr. Dai Nicholas
Cllr. Dai Nicholas Independent Llandybie
Profile image for Cllr. Denise Owen
Cllr. Denise Owen Plaid Cymru Llanybydder
Profile image for Cllr. Martyn Palfreman
Cllr. Martyn Palfreman Welsh Labour Hengoed
Profile image for Cllr. Dorian Phillips
Cllr. Dorian Phillips Plaid Cymru Llanboidy
Profile image for Cllr. Darren Price
Cllr. Darren Price Plaid Cymru Gorslas
Profile image for Cllr. Emyr Rees
Cllr. Emyr Rees Unaffiliated - Independent Glanaman
Profile image for Cllr. Sean Rees
Cllr. Sean Rees Unaffiliated - Independent Glanymor
Profile image for Cllr. Louvain Roberts
Cllr. Louvain Roberts Unaffiliated - Independent Glanymor
Profile image for Cllr. Emlyn Schiavone
Cllr. Emlyn Schiavone Cabinet Member Plaid Cymru Carmarthen Town West
Profile image for Cllr. Jacqueline Seward 
Cllr. Jacqueline Seward  Welsh Labour Llangennech
Profile image for Cllr. Hugh Shepardson
Cllr. Hugh Shepardson Independent Pembrey
Profile image for Cllr. Edward Skinner
Cllr. Edward Skinner Welsh Labour Hengoed
Profile image for Cllr. Russell Sparks
Cllr. Russell Sparks Plaid Cymru Carmarthen Town West
Profile image for Cllr. Dai Thomas
Cllr. Dai Thomas Plaid Cymru Pen-y-Groes
Profile image for Cllr. Edward Thomas
Cllr. Edward Thomas Cabinet Member Independent Llandeilo
Profile image for Cllr. Gareth Thomas
Cllr. Gareth Thomas Plaid Cymru Hendy
Profile image for Cllr. Michael Thomas 
Cllr. Michael Thomas  Welsh Labour Pembrey
Profile image for Cllr. Jane Tremlett
Cllr. Jane Tremlett Cabinet Member Independent Laugharne Township
Profile image for Cllr. Aled Vaughan Owen
Cllr. Aled Vaughan Owen Cabinet Member Plaid Cymru Gorslas
Profile image for Cllr. Fiona Walters
Cllr. Fiona Walters Independent Manordeilo & Salem
Profile image for Cllr. Philip Warlow
Cllr. Philip Warlow Welsh Labour Bigyn
Profile image for Cllr. Elwyn Williams
Cllr. Elwyn Williams Plaid Cymru Llangunnor
Profile image for Cllr. Janet Williams 
Cllr. Janet Williams  Welsh Labour Bigyn
Rhodri Griffiths
Daniel John
Eira Evans
Amanda Edwards
Daniel Hall-Jones
Rachel Morris
Martin Runeckles
Kevin J Thomas
Profile image for Cllr. Stephen Williams
Cllr. Stephen Williams Unaffiliated - Independent Elli
Profile image for Cllr. Stephen Williams
Cllr. Stephen Williams Unaffiliated - Independent Elli

Topics

Parc y Scarlets draft supplementary planning guidance for public consultation Scarlets Regional Ltd Polling District and Polling Place Review 2023/2024 Plastering, Rendering and Insulating Traditional Buildings: Guidance for Sustainability Carmarthenshire Shopfront Design Guide 2022 Winter Fuel Allowance payments Wilko Community Review Conservation Areas: An Essential Guide to their Enhancement Fairtrade movement The Local Government (Democracy) (Wales) Act 2013 Co-opted Independent Member of the Standards Committee Garnant Workman's Hall Towy Valley Cycle Path parking charges at Llansteffan beach front Poundstretcher grass verge cutting and weed killer spraying

Meeting Documents

Agenda

Agenda frontsheet 11th-Sep-2024 10.00 County Council

Reports Pack

Public reports pack 11th-Sep-2024 10.00 County Council

Minutes

Printed minutes 11th-Sep-2024 10.00 County Council
Minutes
Minutes

Additional Documents

Summary
Appendix A
Appendix B
Summary
Appendix A_Brynceirios
Appendix A_Erwaur Garn
Appendix A_Heol Waunhir
Summary
Report
Summary
Appendix C
Summary
Summary
Appendix 1
Appendix B
Appendix 2
Appendix 3
Appendix 4