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Audit and Risk Committee - Tuesday, 22nd July, 2025 7.00 pm

July 22, 2025 View on council website Watch video of meeting Read transcript (Professional subscription required)

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Summary

The Lewisham Council Audit and Risk Committee convened to elect a chair and vice-chair, review audit plans and risk management strategies, and discuss external audit updates. Councillor Ava Kessner was elected as chair, and Councillor Luke Sauber as vice-chair. The committee also approved the internal audit plan for 2025-26 and noted the updated corporate risk register.

Here's a more detailed look at the key discussion points:

  • Election of Chair and Vice Chair
  • Internal Audit Annual Report and Opinion 2024/25
  • Internal Audit Plan 2025/26
  • Risk Update for Audit and Risk Committee
  • External Audit Update
  • KPMG - External Audit Plan - Main Audit
  • KPMG - External Audit Plan - Pension Fund Audit
  • KPMG - Value for Money (VfM) Risk Assessment
  • Exclusion of Press and Public

Election of Chair and Vice Chair

Councillor Ava Kessner was elected chair of the committee, and Councillor Luke Sauber was elected vice chair.

Internal Audit Annual Report and Opinion 2024/25

The committee reviewed the Head of Assurance's annual opinion on the adequacy and effectiveness of the council's governance, risk management, and internal control framework. The Head of Assurance's opinion was generally positive, rating the framework as 'Satisfactory', but noted scope limitations due to a reduced number of completed corporate audits and a lack of coverage in key governance areas such as procurement, information governance, and change management.

Richard Benjamin, Head of Assurance, stated that the internal audit service had worked independently and had full access to officers and records. He also noted that a full gap analysis would be conducted against the new Global Internal Audit Standards in 2025/26, and an improvement plan would be presented to the committee.

The committee noted the report and the Head of Assurance's statement of independent completion in conformance with Public Sector Internal Audit Standards1.

Internal Audit Plan 2025/26

The committee approved the proposed internal audit plan for 2025/26. The plan is risk-based and was developed based on an assessment of the council's strategic objectives, significant risks, and available audit areas. The plan is flexible and will be amended as risks change.

Risk Update for Audit and Risk Committee

The committee reviewed the updated corporate risk register. The report highlighted changes to the register since the last meeting, including the addition of a new risk relating to the PSTN switch-off2.

Councillor James Rathbone queried the change in score for LBL 010, Unable to Set a Balanced Budget , arguing that the reduction in risk seemed unjustified given the financial uncertainty the council is facing. He noted the use of reserves to set a balanced budget and the inability to finalise the MTFS3 in July.

An unnamed risk owner acknowledged the points, explaining that the risk register was published before the information feeding into other reports was available. They anticipated the score would increase again in September.

Councillor Stephen Penfold asked about the increased cost of lines that continue to function after the December 2025 PSTN switch-off. Councillor Penfold and Rebecca Short, Head of Resilience, explained that they were working towards the original deadline, and the costs beyond that date were still speculative.

External Audit Update

The committee received an update on the external audit of the 2024/25 Statement of Accounts. The council published a draft of the accounts on 17 June, ahead of the statutory deadline, and the public inspection is underway. The statutory deadline for the audit is 27 February 2026, but officers are aiming to conclude it in November 2025.

A number of recommendations were made as part of the completed 23-24 audits.

A member of the committee asked about the statutory override related to the schools grant, and another asked about rebates and assistance with rent, suggesting that the information provided was inaccurate.

Another member of the committee queried why a loan of £180,000 to Lewisham Granger Holdings LLP did not appear on page 92. Terence Madgett, Chief Accountant, explained that it was because it was a loan, and the money may not have transferred yet.

KPMG - External Audit Plan - Main Audit

KPMG presented their external audit plan for the main audit.

KPMG - External Audit Plan - Pension Fund Audit

KPMG presented their external audit plan for the pension fund audit.

KPMG - Value for Money (VfM) Risk Assessment

KPMG presented their Value for Money (VfM) risk assessment. A member of the committee asked a broad policy question about the impact of moving local government pension funds into regional pools on the audit approach to council pension funds.

Exclusion of Press and Public

The committee resolved to exclude the press and public from the meeting for item 12, the IT Risks Deep Dive Report, due to the likely disclosure of exempt information.


  1. The Public Sector Internal Audit Standards are a framework of professional standards for internal audit in the public sector. 

  2. PSTN stands for Public Switched Telephone Network, which is the traditional circuit-switched telephone network. 

  3. MTFS stands for Medium Term Financial Strategy. 

Attendees

Profile image for CouncillorEva Kestner
Councillor Eva Kestner  Labour and Co-operative Party •  Lee Green
Profile image for CouncillorLuke Sorba
Councillor Luke Sorba  Labour Party •  Telegraph Hill
Profile image for CouncillorJames Rathbone
Councillor James Rathbone  Labour and Co-operative Party •  Lee Green
Profile image for CouncillorAliya Sheikh
Councillor Aliya Sheikh  Labour Party •  Lewisham Central
Profile image for CouncillorAyesha Lahai-Taylor
Councillor Ayesha Lahai-Taylor  Labour Party •  Brockley
Profile image for CouncillorStephen Penfold
Councillor Stephen Penfold  Labour Party •  Brockley

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Meeting Documents

Agenda

Agenda frontsheet 22nd-Jul-2025 19.00 Audit and Risk Committee.pdf

Reports Pack

Public reports pack 22nd-Jul-2025 19.00 Audit and Risk Committee.pdf

Additional Documents

5. KPMG - London Borough of Lewisham- 24-25 Audit Plan.pdf
6. KPMG - Lewisham Pension Audit Plan - Final.pdf
9. Internal Audit Plan 2025-26.pdf
7. KPMG - London Borough of Lewisham_Value for Money Risk Assessment.pdf
8. Annual Internal Audit Opinion 2024-25.pdf
10. Risk Update for Audit and Risk Committee 202507.pdf
10a. Corporate Risk Register for Audit and Risk Committee 22072025 - Appendix A.pdf
11. Exclusion of the press and public.pdf
1. Election of Chair and Vice Chair.pdf
3. Declarations of Interest.pdf
4. Audit and Risk Committee - 22-07-25 - External Audit Update.pdf
2. Minutes.pdf
4a. Audit and Risk Committee - 22-07-25 - External Audit Update - Appendix A - Draft Statement of Ac.pdf
4e. Audit and Risk Committee - 22-07-25 - External Audit Update - Appendix E.pdf
4b Audit and Risk Committee - 22-07-25 - External Audit Update - Appendix B.pdf
2a. Minutes 2025 03 18 FINAL - Audit and Risk Committee.pdf
4d. Audit and Risk Committee - 22-07-25 - External Audit Update - Appendix D.pdf
4c. Audit and Risk Committee - 22-07-25 - External Audit Update - Appendix C.pdf