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At a meeting of Croydon Council, the lead commissioner gave a statement on behalf of the commissioners, the council approved recommendations regarding external audit findings and extension to the term of the Independent Chair of Audit and Governance Committee, and councillors debated traffic calming measures on Spa Hill and improvements to Courtwood Park. The council also discussed a range of questions from the public, including concerns about building safety at The Fold and Malcolm Wicks House.

Here are the key topics discussed:

External Auditor's Statutory Recommendation

Following concerns about the council's financial sustainability, Grant Thornton, the external auditor, issued a Section 24 Statutory Recommendation Report for 2024-25. The report highlighted the council's continued reliance on government Exceptional Financial Support (EFS) and the need for a sustainable solution to the debt issue.

Paul Dossett from Grant Thornton addressed the council, emphasising the need for collaboration with commissioners and the government to improve the financial position. He described the situation as a legacy of what the Section 151 officer1 had called 'toxic debt'. Councillor Stuart King, Leader of the Opposition, questioned the adequacy of the council's response to the report, while Councillor Helen Redfern asked whether the council was making progress. Councillor Esther Sutton asked about processes to identify underperformance in transformation initiatives. Councillor Clare Bonham sought clarification on the difference between a key and a statutory recommendation, and Councillor Rowena Davis asked how much of the financial deterioration was beyond the council's control.

Mr Dossett explained that a statutory recommendation required a detailed action plan, which would be monitored. He acknowledged improvements in the council's governance arrangements but stressed that extreme financial challenges remained. He also noted that the council needed to demonstrate transparently how its transformation programme was working.

Following the debate, the council voted to accept the statutory recommendation and approve the actions in response.

Building Safety at Queen's Quarter

Several questions were raised regarding building safety at the Queen's Quarter development, particularly concerning The Fold and Malcolm Wicks House.

Mufango Simwaka asked about the council's investigation at The Fold and its alignment with statutory responsibilities under the Fire Safety Act 2021, the Building Safety Act 2022 and the Housing Act 2004. Rosam McQuacqua sought clarification on the council's responsibilities as a freeholder.

Councillor Lynne Hale, Statutory Deputy Mayor and Cabinet Member for Homes, explained that Legal and General (L&G) were responsible for The Fold, while the council was responsible for Malcolm Wicks House. She added that the council was working with the London Fire Brigade to address concerns.

Davis Marengayi asked about reviews undertaken to assess the safety and quality of the buildings following the collapse of Henry Construction. Councillor Hale confirmed that necessary surveys and safety checks were being put in place at Malcolm Wicks House.

Irwin Stewart questioned why The Fold was approved with only one staircase, despite post-Grenfell recommendations. Councillor Hale responded that the building design was approved under regulations in force at the time of the application, which preceded the Building Safety Act 2022.

Lauren Fordham-Gothie asked what the council had proactively done to support residents and why there had been no visible communication. Councillor Hale stated that the Corporate Director of Housing and the Director of Assets and Repairs had met with Sarah Jones MP, and that the council had written to residents at Malcolm Wicks House.

Petition Regarding Spa Hill Road Safety

Hazel Freeman presented a public petition concerning speeding and dangerous driving on Spa Hill. She described numerous collisions and near misses, and called for traffic calming measures and CCTV speed enforcement cameras.

Councillor Scott Roche, Cabinet Member for Streets and Environment, acknowledged the concerns and stated that the council would investigate additional measures, refresh road markings, and liaise with Transport for London (TfL) to explore funding opportunities.

Councillor Patsy Cummings said that collisions on Spa Hill had not been captured on the road safety data report.

Councillor Chris Herman supported the petition and called for CCTV speed enforcement cameras.

Petition Regarding Courtwood Park

Councillor Andy Stranack and Samantha Blakeman presented a member petition calling for the improvement of Courtwood Park in Forestdale. Ms Blakeman highlighted the park's importance to the community and the need for inclusive and accessible play equipment.

Councillor Scott Roche responded that the council was investing in green spaces and would reassess Courtwood Park for potential improvements.

Appointment of Commissioners

Mayor Jason Perry announced that commissioners appointed by the Secretary of State had started work. Jackie Belton introduced the team, including Jed Curran, Councillor Abbey Brown, and Debbie Warren, and outlined their roles and responsibilities. Ms Belton emphasised that the commissioners would work closely with councillors and officers to help Croydon improve. She also clarified that the council remained responsible for setting the budget and council tax levels.

Resignation of Chief Executive

Mayor Jason Perry announced the resignation of the Chief Executive, Catherine Kurzweil, with her final day being 31 October 2025. He thanked her for her work in stabilising the organisation and rebuilding public confidence. Elaine Jackson, Assistant Chief Executive, was covering the role of Chief Executive in the interim.

Pride in Place Programme

Mayor Jason Perry mentioned Natasha Irons MP's enthusiasm for the Pride in Place programme, which aims to empower local communities. He confirmed that New Addington had been selected to receive up to £20 million over the next 10 years.

Public Questions

Several members of the public posed questions to the council, covering a range of topics:

  • Attila Whitmore asked about repairs to a garage door and a refund of rent. Councillor Lynne Hale apologised for the delay and offered a full refund of rent plus an additional rebate.
  • Costa Dexiades asked about protecting adult social care services. Councillor Yvette Hopley highlighted Croydon's good rating from the Care Quality Commission (CQC) and the Adults Living Independently transformation programme.
  • Martin Post asked about unclear branding on parking permit renewal letters. Councillor Scott Roche apologised and confirmed that the council was working to update the letters.
  • Connelly Duxbury asked about Croydon Council's spending of money from the Mayor of London's Carbon Offset Fund. Councillor Jason Cummings said that Croydon was above average across London in terms of how much money had been spent that had been collected in this way, and that the council had made noticeable progress on carbon reduction.
  • Ayan Mahamud asked about council-owned homes managed by private management companies. Mayor Perry responded that the council does not engage with private management companies to manage council-owned jobs.
  • Erwin Stewart asked about the building's approval with only one staircase. Councillor Hale said that the building design was approved under the planning and building regulations, which were enforced at the time of the application.

Extension of Term for Independent Chair of Audit and Governance Committee

Council agreed to extend the term of Dr Olu Alasadeh as Independent Chair of the Audit and Governance Committee for a further two years.

Annual Report of the Scrutiny and Overview Committee

Councillor Leila Benhassel, Chair of the Scrutiny and Overview Committee, introduced the committee's annual report. She highlighted significant overspends across demand-led services and cautioned that the factors leading to last year's cost escalations had not been fully addressed.

Questions to the Mayor and Executive

Councillors asked questions of the Mayor and Executive on various topics, including:

  • The government's appointment of commissioners.
  • The Wondell Park Cafe contract and business rates.
  • Safety issues at The Fold and Malcolm Wicks House.
  • Cancellation of speech and language therapy services.
  • The use of live facial recognition cameras.
  • The outgoing chief executive's notice period.
  • Funding for New Addington and a banking hub.
  • Conditions at Truscott House.

Council Debate Motions

Due to time constraints, the council did not debate the motions submitted by the Conservative and Labour groups.


  1. In local government in the United Kingdom, the Section 151 officer is a statutory appointment, required under Section 151 of the Local Government Act 1972. The Section 151 officer is responsible for the proper administration of the council's financial affairs. 

Attendees

Profile image for CouncillorRichard Chatterjee
Councillor Richard Chatterjee  Civic Mayor •  Conservative •  Shirley North
Profile image for CouncillorMohammed Islam
Councillor Mohammed Islam  Deputy Civic Mayor •  Labour •  Selhurst
Profile image for CouncillorKola Agboola
Councillor Kola Agboola  Labour •  New Addington North
Profile image for CouncillorJeet Bains
Councillor Jeet Bains  Cabinet Member for Planning and Regeneration •  Conservative •  Addiscombe East
Profile image for CouncillorLeila Ben-Hassel
Councillor Leila Ben-Hassel  Labour •  Norbury and Pollards Hill
Profile image for CouncillorSue Bennett
Councillor Sue Bennett  Conservative •  Shirley North
Profile image for CouncillorAdele Benson
Councillor Adele Benson  Conservative •  New Addington North
Profile image for CouncillorMargaret Bird
Councillor Margaret Bird  Deputy Cabinet Member for Health and Adult Social Care •  Conservative •  Old Coulsdon
Profile image for CouncillorClaire Bonham
Councillor Claire Bonham  Liberal Democrats •  Crystal Palace and Upper Norwood
Profile image for CouncillorSimon Brew
Councillor Simon Brew  Conservative •  Purley and Woodcote
Profile image for CouncillorJanet Campbell
Councillor Janet Campbell  Deputy Leader of the Opposition and Shadow Cabinet Member for Health and Adult Social Care •  Labour •  West Thornton
Profile image for CouncillorLouis Carserides
Councillor Louis Carserides  Labour •  South Norwood
Profile image for CouncillorChris Clark
Councillor Chris Clark  Shadow Cabinet Member for Planning and Regeneration •  Labour •  Fairfield
Profile image for CouncillorSherwan Chowdhury
Councillor Sherwan Chowdhury  Labour •  Broad Green
Profile image for CouncillorStuart Collins
Councillor Stuart Collins  Labour •  Broad Green
Profile image for CouncillorMario Creatura
Councillor Mario Creatura  Conservative •  Coulsdon Town
Profile image for CouncillorJason Cummings
Councillor Jason Cummings  Cabinet Member for Finance •  Conservative •  Shirley South
Profile image for CouncillorPatsy Cummings
Councillor Patsy Cummings  Labour •  Crystal Palace and Upper Norwood
Profile image for CouncillorNina Degrads
Councillor Nina Degrads  Labour •  Crystal Palace and Upper Norwood
Profile image for CouncillorRowenna Davis
Councillor Rowenna Davis  Labour •  Waddon
Profile image for CouncillorDanielle Denton
Councillor Danielle Denton  Conservative •  South Croydon
Profile image for CouncillorSamir Dwesar
Councillor Samir Dwesar  Conservative •  Purley and Woodcote
Profile image for CouncillorLara Fish
Councillor Lara Fish  Deputy Cabinet Member for Customer Service •  Conservative •  New Addington South
Profile image for CouncillorSean Fitzsimons
Councillor Sean Fitzsimons  Labour •  Addiscombe West
Profile image for CouncillorAlisa Flemming
Councillor Alisa Flemming  Labour •  Norbury Park
Profile image for CouncillorClive Fraser
Councillor Clive Fraser  Labour •  Addiscombe West
Profile image for CouncillorAmy Foster
Councillor Amy Foster  Shadow Cabinet Member for Children and Young People •  Labour •  Woodside
Profile image for CouncillorSimon Fox
Councillor Simon Fox  Conservative •  Waddon
Profile image for CouncillorGayle Gander
Councillor Gayle Gander  Conservative •  Kenley
Profile image for CouncillorMaria Gatland
Councillor Maria Gatland  Cabinet Member for Children and Young People •  Conservative •  South Croydon
Profile image for CouncillorBrigitte Graham
Councillor Brigitte Graham  Labour •  Woodside
Profile image for CouncillorMatt Griffiths
Councillor Matt Griffiths  Labour •  Norbury and Pollards Hill
Profile image for CouncillorLynne Hale
Councillor Lynne Hale  Statutory Deputy Mayor and Cabinet Member for Homes •  Conservative •  Sanderstead
Profile image for CouncillorJessica Hammersley-Rich
Councillor Jessica Hammersley-Rich  Shadow Cabinet Member for Communities and Culture •  Labour •  Woodside
Profile image for CouncillorPatricia Hay-Justice
Councillor Patricia Hay-Justice  Labour •  Addiscombe West
Profile image for CouncillorMaddie Henson
Councillor Maddie Henson  Labour •  Addiscombe East
Profile image for CouncillorChristopher Herman
Councillor Christopher Herman  Shadow Cabinet Member for Streets and Environment •  Labour •  South Norwood
Profile image for CouncillorYvette Hopley
Councillor Yvette Hopley  Cabinet Member for Health and Adult Social Care •  Conservative •  Sanderstead
Profile image for CouncillorKaren Jewitt
Councillor Karen Jewitt  Labour •  Thornton Heath
Profile image for CouncillorMark Johnson
Councillor Mark Johnson  Conservative •  Shirley North
Profile image for CouncillorHumayun Kabir
Councillor Humayun Kabir  Labour •  Bensham Manor
Profile image for CouncillorStuart King
Councillor Stuart King  Leader of the Opposition •  Labour •  West Thornton
Profile image for CouncillorOla Kolade
Councillor Ola Kolade  Cabinet Member for Community Safety •  Conservative •  Kenley
Profile image for CouncillorJoseph Lee
Councillor Joseph Lee  Deputy Cabinet Member for Children and Young People •  Conservative •  Selsdon and Addington Village
Profile image for CouncillorEndri Llabuti
Councillor Endri Llabuti  Conservative •  Purley Oaks and Riddlesdown
Profile image for CouncillorEnid Mollyneaux
Councillor Enid Mollyneaux  Shadow Cabinet Member for Community Safety •  Labour •  Bensham Manor
Profile image for CouncillorStella Nabukeera
Councillor Stella Nabukeera  Labour •  South Norwood
Profile image for CouncillorMichael Neal
Councillor Michael Neal  Conservative •  South Croydon
Profile image for CouncillorTamar Barrett
Councillor Tamar Barrett  Labour •  Thornton Heath
Profile image for CouncillorEunice O'Dame
Councillor Eunice O'Dame  Labour •  Bensham Manor
Profile image for CouncillorIan Parker
Councillor Ian Parker  Conservative •  Coulsdon Town
Profile image for CouncillorRia Patel
Councillor Ria Patel  Green Party •  Fairfield
Profile image for CouncillorTony Pearson
Councillor Tony Pearson  Deputy Cabinet Member for Regulatory Services •  Conservative •  New Addington South
Profile image for Mayor Jason Perry
Mayor Jason Perry  Executive Mayor •  Conservative
Profile image for CouncillorAndrew Price
Councillor Andrew Price  Conservative •  Park Hill and Whitgift
Profile image for CouncillorHolly Ramsey
Councillor Holly Ramsey  Conservative •  Purley and Woodcote
Profile image for CouncillorHelen Redfern
Councillor Helen Redfern  Conservative •  Sanderstead
Profile image for CouncillorChrishni Reshekaron
Councillor Chrishni Reshekaron  Shadow Cabinet Member for Homes •  Labour •  West Thornton
Profile image for CouncillorScott Roche
Councillor Scott Roche  Cabinet Member for Streets and Environment •  Conservative •  Shirley South
Profile image for CouncillorDr Manju Shahul-Hameed
Councillor Dr Manju Shahul-Hameed  Labour •  Broad Green
Profile image for CouncillorNikhil Sherine Thampi
Councillor Nikhil Sherine Thampi  Conservative •  Old Coulsdon
Profile image for CouncillorLuke Shortland
Councillor Luke Shortland  Conservative •  Coulsdon Town
Profile image for CouncillorAndy Stranack
Councillor Andy Stranack  Cabinet Member for Communities and Culture •  Conservative •  Selsdon Vale and Forestdale
Profile image for CouncillorAlasdair Stewart
Councillor Alasdair Stewart  Conservative •  Purley Oaks and Riddlesdown
Profile image for CouncillorAppu Srinivasan
Councillor Appu Srinivasan  Labour •  Norbury Park
Profile image for CouncillorEsther Sutton
Councillor Esther Sutton  Green Party •  Fairfield
Profile image for CouncillorCatherine Wilson
Councillor Catherine Wilson  Labour •  Selhurst
Profile image for CouncillorRobert Ward
Councillor Robert Ward  Deputy Cabinet Member for Contract Management •  Conservative •  Selsdon and Addington Village
Profile image for CouncillorCallton Young OBE
Councillor Callton Young OBE  Deputy Leader of the Opposition and Shadow Cabinet Member for Finance •  Labour •  Thornton Heath
Profile image for CouncillorFatima Zaman
Councillor Fatima Zaman  Conservative •  Selsdon Vale and Forestdale

Topics

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Meeting Documents

Agenda

Supplementary agenda Public Question Responses_Q1 to Q5 22nd-Oct-2025 18.30 Council.pdf
Supplementary agenda Public Question Responses_Q6 to Q13 22nd-Oct-2025 18.30 Council.pdf
Agenda frontsheet 22nd-Oct-2025 18.30 Council.pdf

Reports Pack

Public reports pack 22nd-Oct-2025 18.30 Council.pdf

Additional Documents

Public Question Responses_Q1 to Q5.pdf
Public Question Responses_Q6 to Q13.pdf
Appendix B - The Councils Proposed Response to the Section 24 Statutory Recommendation.pdf
Report.pdf
Appendix A - Auditors Annual Report for the Year Ending 31 March 2025.pdf
Report.pdf
Report.pdf
Appendix A - Scrutiny Annual Report 2024-25.pdf
Minutes of Previous Meeting.pdf